Testicles, jumper leads and Ali Williams

In this Father’s Day special, Leigh and Matt talk to former all black Ali Williams about life, Springboks rivalry and Leigh’s Uncle Henk who attaches jumper leads to his testicles.

Catch more Paid To Talk, every Friday at 3pm on Radio Hauraki. Get set for a full-on assault on your sense of humour as Leigh and sparring partner Matt Ward delve into the big topics of the week.

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